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EPISODE-8
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AB: Anil Biswas
TB: Tushar Bhatia

TB: aaj ki kaDi mein phir ek baar Tushar Bhatia aur ham sab ke priya Anil dada ka namshkaar!

AB:ham sab ke pyaare honge Anil dada Khud bhi namashkaar kehna chaahta hai. aaj main do mard maraaThaa ko laaya hoon. mard maaraaThe to dekhe honge. ek ka naam hai Vasant Desai aur doosre ka naam hai C Ramchandra. dono ko ek saath main isliye laana chaahta hoon kyonki dono agar akhaaDe mein utar jaaye na to kaun jeetega kaun haarega pataa nahin. mujhe to itna pataa hai ki Vasant Desai jeetegaa kyonki woh pahalvan tha zyaada.

TB: achchha?

AB: iske ‘muscles’ agar tum dekhte to poochhte ki yeh sangeetkaar hai yaa kushtigir hai. hamaare liye kehte the ki aapka hanumaan hoon main. woh chuTkula yeh hai ki Aashirwaad film ko ‘privately’ dikhaane ke liye Delhi aaye the. wo aur Hrishikesh. mere ghar aaye dono. main beemaar tha us waqt. maine kahaa ki main to nahin jaa sakta. to usne kya kiya, paTThe ne, mujhe kandhe pe uThaa liya aur kahaa ki ‘tera hanumaan kisliye hai’. to mujhe uThaake gaDi tak kandhe pe uThaake leke chale gaye. woh baat bhulaaye nahin bhoolti. achchha main tumhe ek anokha gaana sunaata hoon, “jhir jhir barse saawani akhiyaan”.

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Song: jhir jhir barse saawani akhiyaan (Aashirwaad)
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AB: ab suno unka ek jhalak jo ‘classical music’ ki taraf jaata hai. Guddi ‘picture’ ki baat karta hoon. Vani Jayram ki pehchaan yaheen se huya tha. yahaan pe usne gaaya tha “bol re papeehara”. gaana suno aur mehsoos karo ki malhaar ka kitna Khoobsoorat istemaal kiya hai.

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Song: bol re papeehara (Guddi, 1971)
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AB: isi kaDi mein doosre pahalvaan ka naam hai C Ramchandra. pehle pahalvaan, uske bad sangeetkaar. 6 feet ek inch ka tha wo, aur main jab uske saath khaDaa ho jaata tha na woh kehta tha ki ‘tu mera baap hai’. main bolta ‘dhut, main tera baap hota to tu itna baDaa mere se nahin ho sakta tha’ (laughs). C Ramchandra ke baare mein kehte huye mera jee bhar aata hai. C Ramchandra ‘physical’, yaani sashareer mera ‘assistant’ tha. doosre log kehte hain wo mera guru hai, ye hai wo hai, ye unka baDappan hai, lekin ye paTThaa aisa karta tha, Indore mein Khaas kar ke baat huyi ki ‘main Anil biswas ka assistant tha’, yeh baat baDe aksharon mein chhaapeeye aur unko bhej deejiye. kisko? Anil Biswas ko.

TB: dada, lekin inka ‘music’ to bahut alag tha aap se?

AB: dekhiye, kaafi der tak jab woh mere saath chalaa, to uske baad uske do ek ‘picture’-on ke baad kisi ne usse kaha ki ismein Anil Biswas ki boo aati hai. unko phir yahi lagaa hoga ki kisi baDe peD ke neeche ghaas ugte nahin hain, to usne ek gaana banaake laaya huya tha, Bombay Talkies mein tab main baiTha huya tha, peechhe peechhe se P L Santoshi. to aakar bola ki ek gaana banaaya hai, sun lo, sunne ke baad joote maar lena par meri ek baar sun lena. gaana kaun sa tha maaloom hai? “aana meri jaan meri jaan sunday ke sunday”. maine kahaa waaqai tu joote khaane ke qaabil hai. bola ki main joote khaa leta hoon. lekin ek baat mujhe bolna hai ki kab tak main ‘Number-2 Anil Biswas’ bankar rahoonga? log mujhe taanaa dete rehte hain. main chaahta hoon ki mera ek vyaktitva gaThan ho. to usse bhi Kharaab hoga, usse bhi haraab hogaa, lekin jo bhi hoga mera apna hogaa. to uske baad mera jo hai na ek dam se ghanTi baj gayi. maine usse kaha ki mera aashirvaad hai aur yeh gaana jo hai na yeh to ‘popular’ hona hi hai. hoga hi! aur mera aashirvaad hai uske saath mein to hona hi chaahiye. aur ho gaya. magar woh gaana main sunaana nahin chaahta hoon.

TB: to kaun sa gaana sunaayenge dada?

AB: “eena meena Deeka”. ek ajeeb hi rang tha uska. koi ‘meaning’ tha. ek hamaare bangladesh ka gaana yaad aa gaya tha mujhe isi tarah ka. uska bhi koi matlab nahin hota hai.

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Clip: eena meena Deeka (Asha, 1956)
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TB: dada, C Ramchandra ji ki sabse lokapriya film thi Albela. is film kakoi gaana sunaana chaahte hain?

AB: woh gaana sunaana chaahta hoon, “bholi soorat”.

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Song: bholi soorat dil ke khoTe (Albela, 1951)
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AB: sun liya na “bholi soorat”? aur jiske liye wo badnaam ho gaya tha ki Anil Biswas ka rang laga huya hai tumhaare sangeet mein, uska ek gaana sunaata hoon to bura to nahin maanoge?

TB: nahin dada

AB: shrotaaon maaf karna, darasal thoDe se mere rang mein ranga huya hai to isliye mujhe aur bhi zyaada pasand hai. woh lori hai “dheere se aaja ri akhiyan mein nindiya aaja ri aaja”.

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Song: dheere se aaja ri akhiyan mein (Albela, 1951)
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END OF EPISODE 8

 

 

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